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Michael
York (Excerpts)
"This resonated well with my new-found
work practice of positive, adventurous action
rather than safe inaction."
The
above quote from Michael York’s 1991
autobiography Travelling Player sums up
his work philoso phy—a philosophy which has
paid off both personally and career-wise,
resulting in a superb body of work and an
enormously rewarding life. In a career
encompassing the stage, film, and television,
this flexible attitude has led Mr. York to play
a variety of roles from Tybalt in Franco
Zefirelli’s Romeo and Juliet (1968) to
John the Baptist in Jesus of Nazareth
(1977) and more recently to the Antichrist in
the independent film The Omega Code
(1999) and its sequel Megiddo: The Omega Code
2.
Born
Michael Johnson in 1942, Mr. York joined the
National Youth Theatre in 1959. After graduating
from Oxford in 1964, he joined Laurence
Olivier’s National Theatre where he met Franco
Zefirelli, who eventually cast him in the role
of Lucentio in his production of The Taming
of the Shrew (1967), marking the start of
his film career. He went on to act in several
more Zefirelli productions including Jesus of
Nazareth and Romeo and Juliet. In
1972 he was cast opposite Liza Minelli in
Cabaret and went on to star in such films
as England Made Me (1973), The Three
Musketeers (1973), Murder on the Orient
Express (1974), and Logan’s Run
(1976).
Mr. York lectures
extensively about the art of acting,
Shakespeare, and the poetry of Rudyard Kipling.
In 2000 he collaborated with long-time friend
and colleague Adrian Brine to write A
Shakespearean Actor Prepares. His recent
book Dispatches from Armageddon, written
in an informal yet contemplative style, offers a
witty behind-the-scenes look at the making of
the two Omega Code films, as well as
entertaining glimpses into the making of several
of his other films.
TSM: So tell us about your new book,
Dispatches from Armageddon. I’ve read it
and I thought it was very easy to read, and it
was very entertaining.
MY:
Oh, I’m glad. Well, that was the object of the
exercise, you know. For one thing I enjoy
writing and I had a feeling it might be
interesting to write about this film but without
grinding you down with endless boring detail, so
I kept notes on it—particularly because, as you
know, I was involved as a co-producer with the
decisions involved beforehand, what leads up to
it, and what happens afterwards. So that was the
premise [of the book] and then, you know, the
film came out and I sent the book to be
published on September 10th and on September
12th I called the publishers and I said,
"Listen, just hold up! This story’s not over."
So I was able to add the epilogue about having
the film come out in the post-9/11
climate.
TSM: Did those problems hurt the
film?
MY:
Well I don’t know. They obviously affected it.
You know the decision was made to go ahead with
its release and I explained [in the epilogue
that was because] there was this amazing
parallel. [The film] wasn’t about terrorism but
the forces of good and evil—the forces of good
in the world being rallied by an American
president. So a lot of people were very
convinced and demanded its release and thought
its message was even more timely. But as you
know, there was enormous soul-searching and
breast-beating about what was appropriate at
that time. I think now we’re several months away
from it and the DVD and the video have just been
released in huge numbers, and if The Omega
Code One is anything to go by, I think
that’s where its real niche will
lie.
TSM: So did you expect that the first film
would be such a hit?
MY:
Not such a phenomenal hit, no. I had no idea
that it would be the number one limited release
film of the year. Nor was I aware that there was
this groundswell of Christian entertainment
growing in this country. And then of course this
Newsweek article came out about it and
attention was drawn to it. Whether we were part
of it . . . I think we were part of it because
it got mentioned in most articles. From my point
of view, I was always standing outside, any
organisation of Christianity. The idea when they
first came to me was that these films would have
a sort of double purpose: that they would appeal
to a core Christian audience of course, but that
they would be made—hopefully well made—using
Hollywood techniques, that they would cross over
into a much wider audience.
TSM: You’ve played both the Anti-Christ and
John the Baptist, so I have to ask if you are a
spiritual person.
MY: Oh, I think I am, yes. I
would like to think I am. There’s this endless
quest: Who are we? What are we doing? Where are
we going? Although the great question is, who am
I? Which is of course endlessly
fascinating!
TSM: So tell us about your passion for
Shakespeare and the poetry of Rudyard
Kipling.
MY:
Well, you know, in the 90’s I decided that I’d
love to do some eclectic performance pieces and
concentrated on things that I enjoyed most:
Shakespeare—there’s one about acting and actors’
perceptions—and also the poetry of Rudyard
Kipling, which I think has been seriously
underestimated. People write on Kipling as just
the King’s trumpeter, you know, this versifier
of Empire. But he’s not. He’s much more
complex.
TSM: He was somewhat of a critic at times,
especially, I think, after his son died in the
War.
MY:
Oh, yes, and in fact I touch on some of that
poetry after the event which is really visceral,
powerful, and not at all the jaunty Barrack Room
ballad, but there is such a variety of poetry
from the great narratives to the Barrack Room
Ballads done in the soldierly vernacular. You
know the famous one is Gunga Din but then
also some very beautiful lyrical poetry. I think
it was T.S. Eliot who said that he was a great
poet, and I think this can be proved. He was
very complex man and I think this is what is so
fascinating; this Anglo-Indian character has
made for enormous complexity.
TSM:
What are your memories of Murder on the
Orient Express?
MY:
Well, very happy ones. The film was so
star-studded—with every role played by somebody
famous. Richard Widmark was in it and said he
signed on to meet the stars! It was a huge
pleasure, and in fact I remember we had a sort
of round table buffet for luncheon because
people didn’t really want to stop in the middle
of the day—because I think several were doing
West End shows—and this round table became
rather famous. People would drop by—I mean
royalty and visiting dignitaries. I was living
in London at the time, so it was a great
pleasure. I had a beautiful lady as my countess,
Jacqui Bisset, who of course lives here now and
we still keep in touch.
TSM:
You managed to look and sound like a real
Hungarian. How did you prepare for the
part?
MY: Well, thank you. I actually
had tea with a very famous Hungarian writer,
George Mikesch, to sort of get the accent. But
you know the clothes were also a real feature.
Anthony Powell’s costumes were just superb. And
it’s interesting, there was an overcoat—I think
I write about it in the book, the beautiful
camelhair overcoat—which was made for that film,
and I loved it. It was so elegant. After the
shooting it was returned to some wardrobe and
years later it turned up again, and I thought
this was too good to be true and I bought it.
And I’ve used it on subsequent
films.
TSM:
Yes, I’ve heard that. So who would you say was
the most supportive and inspiring director you
worked with? Would it be Franco
Zeffirelli?
MY:
He’d have to be on the list—getting that first
chance, which I think is so important. It had
happened that I’d worked with him in the
theatre; I was in Laurence Olivier’s National
Theatre Company in a production of Much Ado
about Nothing. I remember one time during
rehearsals, I just happened to be in the canteen
at the Old Vic getting a cup of tea and
Zeffirelli was there and he said to me, "Have
you made movies?" and I said, "No." And he said,
"Well, would you like to?" and I said, "My God,
one dreams of it!" And he said, "Well, one day
you should." And a year later I got summoned to
go to Rome to audition for his Taming of the
Shrew, and by great good fortune I got the
job and got this other label—the movie actor.
But I think working with Bob Fosse on
Cabaret was enormously rewarding because
he was so creative, so concentrated, so
inventive, cared so much. He would . . . . You
know, films are so often about technical things;
we wait for lights to be lit, tracks to be laid.
It’s quite time consuming. But he would always
use this time for rehearsal, energising times,
trying things in different ways so that, when
the set was ready, the whole cast was firing on
all cylinders full of interesting ideas to put
into practice. There was a sort of dark side to
him too, that I liked, which obviously came out
in the other movies. He was not the smoothest
person. But we liked each other. We kept in
touch.
TSM:
You also worked with Billy Wilder.
MY: Yes, I’m so thrilled to have
that on my resumé. And Fedora was, I
think, unfairly dismissed with faint praise when
it first came out, but it has certainly since
found a much more enthusiastic reception. Well,
you know, I was playing myself, which was a
bizarre role, and you know I’m responsible for
the death of this leading character who forms a
passion for Michael York and has a little
shrine. But, you know, I said to Billy that this
is the one occasion I can legitimately say to
you, as actors so often tiresomely say, "I’m
sorry. My character wouldn’t say this!" It was a
great pleasure. I just wish then I’d had my
notebook out and, Boswell-like, jotted down
notes.
TSM:
Would you return back to the stage to do more
Shakespeare?
MY:
Well, I do go back to the stage, but it has been
some time now, except that I’ve been doing these
lecture performances around the country—sort of
getting my performance, the theatrical side,
giving it a turnover, and appearing before an
audience with a sort of hybrid lecture cum
performance piece, which I very much enjoy. But
really I’m wide open. I’m looking for things to
do, but it hasn’t come along yet.
TSM:
So will you write more books?
MY: I
must say I enjoyed it enormously. But doing the
two in a row, you get into the habit. I’d love
to do more, but rather than talking about it one
should just call you up and say, look I’ve done
this. You know, I suppose everyone dreams of
writing a novel, even one. You’re a
writer?
TSM:
No, I’m an editor. I have to look over all the
manuscripts.
MY:
Well, yours is a sort of vanishing trade, don’t
you think?
TSM:
Yeah, it is.
MY:
It’s a tragedy that’s happened.
TSM:
So you would consider writing a novel in the
future?
MY:
I’d love to. I’d love to try my hand just to say
that one had done it.
TSM:
You have plenty of life’s experiences, and
you’ve been all around the world, so that counts
for a lot.
MY: I
wonder, yes. Maybe. But that’s next on the
agenda, and I think you do get withdrawn if you
stop writing. I know that doing the diary I was
getting up at 4.30 in the morning and I couldn’t
wait to get down to my desk. I’d love to do
it.
TSM:
So in your book it says that you’re interested
in natural medicine and things like that. Are
you into the organic food?
MY: I
think so, yes. I think it’s an important aspect
of it. My wife and I have been, you know,
medically alternative for thirty years—in fact
so long ago we were sort of freaks. Now, of
course, everything has become a little more
mainstream. I don’t think they even call it
alternative anymore. It’s called integrated. My
wife has a passion that the so-called orthodox
and the so-called alternative shouldn’t be
mutually exclusive, and that they should join
forces. And you know there are wonderful, huge,
noble things being done in each branch. I love
homoeopathy and acupuncture. I think that
everything that keeps the body in an optimum
state rather than waiting for it to break down
and then seeking help . . . you know, seeking
help beforehand. Rather like the Chinese, where
you pay your doctor when you’re healthy and you
stop paying him when you get sick.
TSM:
That’s a very good strategy! For the past few
years I’ve grown my own vegetables organically
in terracotta pots . . . .
MY:
Well, you’re right, it does make a difference. I
don’t care what they say that it’s all in the
mind. We shop in an organic store, and I know it
makes a difference.
TSM:
If you look at the increase in chronic illnesses
over the past hundred years or so, I mean, you
have to think that pesticides are causing all of
this.
MY:
Oh, God yes, and some additives are surely
there, and the fast foods, and the way that the
whole population is getting so
enormous.
TSM: I
know. You know, they’re stopping physical
education in schools.
MY:
And diabetes is rampant. There’s something not
right.
TSM:
So you and your wife have a very happy marriage.
To what would you attribute that?
MY: I
wish I could pin it down to one factor. You
know, I think we’re very lucky. We are well
suited to each other. We’re interested in the
same things but not to the point where it’s
boring or we’re sort of clones, you know. I love
the fact that she’s become this very celebrated
photographer and exhibits all over the world. It
gives me a chance to travel with her and go to
these fascinating places. She’s had exhibitions
in the Kremlin, St. Petersburg, London,
Dubrovnik, Warsaw, and places like that. So
that’s great. I think also having someone to
love keeps you healthy too. It all has its up
and downs, of course, but I think if you’re
sharing it with someone it makes it so much less
impactful.
TSM:
And your wife travels with you, of course,
throughout all the locations.
MY: We try to, yes. A foreign
location gives her scope for her work as a
photographer and writer and it’s just so nice to
be together. You know, I’ve witnessed on
location where actors haven’t been able to be
with their families and it’s a bit of a
compromise. You’re waiting for the experience to
end so that real life can begin again, whereas
if you are with your loved one, it’s just an
embellishment of life. You can go off and share
and enjoy what’s there.
TSM:
So, will you ever retire?
MY:
No, I’d like to emulate John Gielgud! Call me on
my 96th birthday when I’ve put in a good day’s
work! But that is one of the great fascinations
of the job, the sheer un-nine-till-fiveness of
it all. If you can keep your wits about you and
your health, there’s always something for you to
do.
TSM:
And finally, besides acting, what are some of
your hobbies, the things that you enjoy
doing?
MY: I
love going to the opera, travel of course, a bit
of collecting. I’m a bit of a magpie. I’ve been
collecting stuff to do with the opera and the
ballet. I love design drawings, costume
drawings, set drawings, things that are later
translated into something else. I have a lot of
interests. I’m sure I’ve left something out!
Maybe too many interests. I have a magazine
mind, you’ll be pleased to know.
TSM:
Oh, that’s great!
MY:
Both my wife and I are great magazine readers,
so the bedside is pretty heavily piled and it’s
a sort of addiction. There should be a Magazine
Readers Anonymous where you go to try and curb
it. But I’ve always loved newspapers and
magazines. I’m thrilled to know that yours is
there. It’s a noble name been
revived.
TSM:
Well, thank you so much. Thank you so much for
speaking to me. It’s been a great
pleasure.
MY:
Well, for me too, and I hope you feel
better.
TSM:
Thank you so much.
MY:
Not at all.
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